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Jean-Yves Duclos, Minister of Public Services and Procurement
However, Minister Duclos denies exaggerating its scale. No, we don't make too much of it. You have to do whatever it takes […] to find them all. It requires a lot of work, but it is essential for […] the confidence of Canadians.
He admits, however, that we must avoid generalize the situation to all businesses that do business with Ottawa.
These are bad apples in a very big basket of apples. We must avoid believing that the whole basket is rotten.
A quote from Jean-Yves Duclos, Minister of Public Services and Supply
The fact that 36 ministries were affected by this fraud underlines the strong tendency of ministries to still work in silos, judge Denis Saint-Martin. According to him, this is an element that ultimately needs to be worked on.
The professor also underlines the importance of accountability mechanisms accounts to avoid falling into the black hole of accountability.
It was a denunciation via a telephone line that put PSPC on the trail of fraudsters. Then, advanced data analysis techniques allowed him to note that the three consultants had invoiced the same hours of work to several ministries.
L Artificial intelligence is one of the new tools available to investigators. Without it, it is difficult – if not impossible – to compile, cross-reference and analyze data related to hundreds of thousands of federal contracts.
If artificial intelligence can be a tool, it can prove counterproductive, according to Professor Saint-Martin.
Algorithms can help civil servants looking for clues, but also contractors trying to circumvent the rules.
Among the other tools the ministry relies on to keep tabs on suppliers is the Office of Supplier Integrity and Compliance (BICF). It will see the light of day next May.
The mission of the BICF and its future employees is to ensure that the federal government does not do business with suppliers exhibiting concerning behavior. To do this, the office will have the ability to detect fraud and wrongdoing related to federal procurement.
It may take measures such as suspending or removing a supplier, in the absence of prosecution or accusation, and collaborate with other jurisdictions such as Quebec or the United States, according to information provided during a technical briefing.
If the pandemic caused an electric shock which accelerated the digital efforts of the public administration, according to Denis Saint-Martin, the episode above all tested the public service in an emergency situation. Good public administration and the concept of emergency are incompatible, he adds.
However, the professor sees a possible return of the pendulum where almost systematic external subcontracting – a way of doing things that dates back to the 1990s – would be gradually replaced by more work from internal civil servants.
No one likes bureaucracy. Then, when scandals like that happen, it's sure that it's easy to sugarcoat the backs of bad officials, declares Denis Saint-Martin.
He adds: These are tough times to go through, but some would say that these are golden files and opportunities to really work hard.
Minister Duclos' interview will be broadcast in The Behind the Scenes of Power < em> at 11 h, Sunday, on ICI RDI and HERE TV.
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